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2199 Model Kits

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:11 am
by JohnStanowski
Well, I just ordered my first 2199 Model Kit. I have no idea what to expect. Has anyone gotten any of these yet? Are they molded in color? Hard or easy to put together?

Re: 2199 Model Kits

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:20 am
by Ithekro
They are molded in color and are suppose to be easy to put together until you get to the detail bits, which can be tricky from what I understand. The details can usually be left off and still have a reasonable looking model.

Re: 2199 Model Kits

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:30 am
by Steve H
JohnStanowski wrote:Well, I just ordered my first 2199 Model Kit. I have no idea what to expect. Has anyone gotten any of these yet? Are they molded in color? Hard or easy to put together?


A bit more detail would be helpful, i.e. which kit you ordered. :)

Short form: Modern Yamato kits are snap-together kits, generally molded in various colors. Glue and paint do make a better finished kit.

Instructions are in Japanese, but Bandai does an excellent job of using pictures to show assembly, combined with a usually excellent layout of the parts on various 'trees'. If you can pay attention, follow the steps, pay attention, and pay attention, you should be fine.

I would not recommend any of the Yamato 2199 models if one has NEVER EVER built a model. It does help to have an existing 'skill set' as in knowing how to remove parts from the sprue tree, how to trim off any excess pour stub from the part, that sort of thing. Helpfully there is a crash course in these things in pictograms on the instructions, all you have to understand is 'O' means 'this is OK to do' and 'X' means 'do NOT do it like this'.

*sigh* always something new. Have a clean work surface like a table, with plenty of light. Make sure you have good ventilation, especially if you use model cement. Don't rush.

I have some work to do on my 1/1000 Yamato. It's covered in vents, gates, drains and limber holes which is a nice option but makes the hull look busy, overdone. I intend to fill all those ballast tank vents. I will note that Bandai seems to have decided to omit those details in the upcoming 1/500 version. :)

Re: 2199 Model Kits

PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:38 am
by JohnStanowski
Steve H wrote:Short form: Modern Yamato kits are snap-together kits, generally molded in various colors. Glue and paint do make a better finished kit.


Awesome, thanks for the info. I'm a little relieved that they're molded in color. I've many a model in my day, but it's been at least 10 years since the last one.

I got the Gamilas Set 1 to start. If I like this first one, which I'm sure I will, I'll probably grab most of the rest!

Re: 2199 Model Kits

PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:55 am
by Steve H
JohnStanowski wrote:
Steve H wrote:Short form: Modern Yamato kits are snap-together kits, generally molded in various colors. Glue and paint do make a better finished kit.


Awesome, thanks for the info. I'm a little relieved that they're molded in color. I've many a model in my day, but it's been at least 10 years since the last one.

I got the Gamilas Set 1 to start. If I like this first one, which I'm sure I will, I'll probably grab most of the rest!


Excellent. There's not a lot of different color with the basic Gamilas ships, but the options are all over the place. Many people are doing camouflage variations based on late WWII German Luftwaffe aircraft, so get some Black Green and Dark Green paint.

Or of course dark sea blue for Imperial Homeguard ships.

Also, tweezers. There's a large amount of tiny, tiny fins on these ships.

Normally I'd post a link to Hobbysearch's site where they link to actual instruction sheets, but that specific URL is down as I type this, so I'll link to the page for the kit. When the link is back up you can click a thumbnail and go thru the instructions and see what to expect. http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10204433

Re: 2199 Model Kits

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:41 pm
by JohnStanowski
Steve H wrote:Normally I'd post a link to Hobbysearch's site where they link to actual instruction sheets, but that specific URL is down as I type this, so I'll link to the page for the kit. When the link is back up you can click a thumbnail and go thru the instructions and see what to expect. http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10204433


Damn, just saw the photos. There's a lot more work to be done that I though. But I have my tweezers ready. Do they make tool kits for this? I think I'll seach Hobby Link Japan.

I wish more ships would show up as Chogokins!

Re: 2199 Model Kits

PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:24 am
by Steve H
JohnStanowski wrote:
Steve H wrote:Normally I'd post a link to Hobbysearch's site where they link to actual instruction sheets, but that specific URL is down as I type this, so I'll link to the page for the kit. When the link is back up you can click a thumbnail and go thru the instructions and see what to expect. http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10204433


Damn, just saw the photos. There's a lot more work to be done that I though. But I have my tweezers ready. Do they make tool kits for this? I think I'll seach Hobby Link Japan.

I wish more ships would show up as Chogokins!


It's not so bad. Some simple tools are all you really need.

This is not a bad basic kit. http://www.hlj.com/product/TAM74016/Sup

It contains the basics. Parts nipper, tweezers, a craft knife and a file. It also contains a couple of small screwdrivers which are more useful for working on R/C cars or mini FWD racing. This kit can be bought just about anywhere, I've seen it on a peg at Hobby Lobby for goodness sakes. :)

This is another option: http://www.amazon.com/MegaHobby-Modeler ... uid+cement

It doesn't have files, you'll want to ditch the knife for something better, and the cement that is included is O.K. but there's better out there. OTOH it does have some paint brushes and some nice sanding film.

But you can build your own toolbox. Use the above as a guide. A good parts nipper is probably the most essential tool. Testors makes a good one, available at most any local hobby shop. Craft Knife, the X-Acto #1 handle holding a #11 blade has been a standard since the '70s. Small craft files, sometimes called 'jeweler's files' are easy and common. I've even seen them sometimes in a Dollar Tree store. Harbor Freight usually has an assortment pack at a good price.

This is my usual plastic cement. http://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Cement-For ... uid+cement

Note that Testors makes several cements in similar bottles. What makes this special, and the best to use in my point of view, is a. it's thin but not so thin it runs like water and thus you lose control, and b. it has a METAL needle dispenser, which doesn't clog like the plastic tips on the other bottles.

Does that give you a little more confidence? It's not a HUGE investment (but as with any tool more money spent buys you a quality tool), you can build your own beginner's toolbox for around $30 (and maybe less) all told (and buy something to keep them in! Even if it's a Dollar Store school pencil box!) The EXPENSIVE part comes when you buy glue, putty, paint... :)

Re: 2199 Model Kits

PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:31 am
by JohnStanowski
Wow, just what I was looking for! I'm going to order that kit from HLJ right now and that glue of choice. What about the decals? I never, ever had any luck with those. Know of any good article on that?

Thanks!

Re: 2199 Model Kits

PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:30 pm
by Steve H
JohnStanowski wrote:Wow, just what I was looking for! I'm going to order that kit from HLJ right now and that glue of choice. What about the decals? I never, ever had any luck with those. Know of any good article on that?

Thanks!


There are minimal decals on these kits. On the Gamilas ships you're getting the only decals are for the 'Gamilas Eye' intake thingie, and that can just as easily be done with paint if you choose. There ARE markings on the Yamato but oddly enough they aren't included with the kit, they're a 'bonus' item packaged with other kits! I expect the upcoming 1/500 scale Yamato will have a full set of decals.

The most decal heavy kits are the Earth Cosmo Fleet sets. I dread dealing with that, because they're TINY. I can foresee getting out the magnifying glass headset and my most fine-nosed tweezers.

Re: 2199 Model Kits

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:36 am
by JohnStanowski
I at least want to get Okita's ship so I'm going to have to just do my best with the decals. I mean to get a couple planes too, I'm sure they have a lot of decals as well.

My Gamilon Set 1 showed up today. But I can't touch it until I get my supplies from HLJ, etc.

Do you know if there's a way to paint the lines in the hull of these ships? I want to do this with the Kirishima as well. I was wondering if there was a way to sort of fill them in almost like doing grout work. Like something I can spread on and then wipe off, but leaving it stuck in the hull lines.

Would you happen to know of any good Model Building and painting sites I should see?